MEN!!! Can't Live with 'em and can't shoot 'em
OK LADIES: The Newsletter is out and it is almost all about MEN. For the last week, Joe and I, and our staff, have been preparing 3 new pages for www.seniorbachelor.com . A Men's Page, a Men's Blog, and an incredible Photo Page. It's all in the Newsletter. The main goal was to be responsive to what I have heard so many times, "Where are all of the men??" Now we have created the structure, your role is get them to sign up for the Newsletters. We are hoping each of you will ask at least 2 to 5 men to sign up for the Newsletters. Why not? It's free, they will not be spammed and I will not allow anyone else to use the list. Now the ball is in your half of the court. Good luck. Richard Roe
124 Comments:
(aka Nancy in Ohio)
Thanks, Richard and Joe, for all your work in preparing the men's page, blog, etc. This will be interesting to see how many of us are able to influence men we know to join in on the 'adventure'.
Nancy
Aloha ROEmeo, jOE, UmbertO, Posse and Friends on the blog!
WOW Richard and Co. what a fabulous Newsletter! I'll be hones in admitting I had to take a deep breath before reading the Newsletter! How exciting for the MEN to have their own Blog and tete ta tete(chat?)with you Richard, Joe and Umberto etc. Yes I peeked in and Joe you are funny with your comment;)
Here's to ROEMANCE snd ADVENTURE!
Richard I am thrilled that you have decided to launch the MEN'S Blog(what a name!) with the potential of ALL meeing their prospective SOULMATE...Blogettes and Bloggins(my nickname for the MEN'S BLOG:)
Hugs
Senior Bachelorette:)
Val The Gal
p.s. I am waiting to see who are the 'CHOSEN' 12 for your week's get-a-way;)
ooops error=correction...HONEST;)
Senior Bachelorette:)
val the gal
Dear Richard and Staff,
Great news letter and WONDERFUL raft of pictures on the photo page.
Yes, My Dear Mom did teach me those 10 two letter words almost too well. It was not untill later in life that I learned the value of asking for help. And even still later when I began to realize that with help, things could be different and even better than I could have imagined.
We have all grown much.
Thank you for sharing.
(About the men, some of us, at least I am, are on hold till we see/hear what you are going to do. I am not interested in the male equivulant of a harem.)
Mary Rose.
Aloha!
RICHARD...JOE.... POSSE(including SKYWATCHER 'ELLA";)the past 6 months we have had such fun on the Blog, nevermind the odd little 'glitch' in communication now and then! It is still amazing how one can establish a level of affection through this 'medium', now to meet
y'all, I so look forward to that day:)
Happy Trails...Yee Haa;)
Owwww
Senior Bachelorette:)
val the gal
brevity...yep...ain't an easy one for me;)
Richard, Joe and Umberto,
The new pages are exciting! Thanks for listening to our suggestions and acting on them.
Joe--of course we're peeking--had to see who that first "brave" blogger on the men's blog would be!
Quote from an article in the Indianapolis Star, 9/26/2005, about blog dating, "for many younger than 30, a blog is as much an ace in the dating game as a flashy car or a nice smile".
This is what we're talking about....what about those of us over 30???
Our work is cut out for us!
Connie
Howdy ROEmancin' ROEmeo...jOE...UmbertO, Posse and Bloggers
I notice a couple of bloopers pertaining to my spelling, I am too excited, m' fingers are jumping over the keys...weeeeee
Hugs
Senior Bachelorette:)
val the gal
Suzanne, aka desertfoxy lady.....
YES I WOULD LOVE FOR YOU TO POST IT FOR ME!! I WILL E-MAIL YOU WITH MY PASS WORD..
to the one who could' not find out how to get on the mens site.. just click on the mens blog that is circled.. in the blue circle..
that will take you to it.. if you want to peek..
Wanda
Thanks, Wanda!
Nancy
Good job guys -- but you know the news we're REALLY looking for. Joe, can you give us a clue when the 12 will be notified/publicized. Please,please,please.
Fantastic....I forwarded to 5 bachleors already. Very exciting. I'm going to start shopping for alaska....and this time I'm not going to get blisters so I can stand in line and dance with Richard. Oh dear, do you suppose it may be he is taken by then???? Only I know whose face is behind the questionmark on the wedding bride doll....Well, maybe Jean and Chandra???????? MM
Richard, Umberto and Joe... You are fantastic! What a great job with the Men's Page and the Men's Blog. I can't wait to see where all of this will go from here. I think we are all in for a pleasant surprise. I can't wait for our next party or cruise. The Photo Page is marvelous. It loads quickly on my computer and the pictures are great. This is a very exciting week for all of us as we await the news of the 12 chosen ones. This has been such fun for me here at home. My friends and family are constantly checking in on the SB website for new information and calling me to get an update. I think many of my friends think I was crazy for going to Chicago to meet a man that I only read about on the internet, but they have had a really fun time keeping up with the progress of Richard's search for a traveling companion and soulmate. I say sometimes you just have to take a risk... It sure makes life more interesting and exciting! Well, Richard and Ladies of the Blog, I'm ready to make my life more exciting. I guess I will find out by the end of the week what direction my life will take. (I hope I'm traveling with RR!) More later.
Always...
Pam in Missouri
OKEY DOKEY Wanda this is a test to see if your picture comes out.
Hugs Suzanne
SharingtheNight I think your photo came out very good. Do you like it?
Hugs Suzanne
Desertfoxylady.... how do I thank you!!!! I LOVE IT!!!
THE OTHER PICTURE SHOWS MY BROWN HAIR AND BLUE EYES, BUT THIS ONE SHOWS ALL OF ME! PERFECT!! I LOVE YA ~~ OH WHAT A GAL ~
Hey Richard oh by the way The news letter was great too.. but you forgot to mention that you were going to sweep me off my feet and take me away ha ha hee hee hoo hoo
grin grin :) :) come on now I thought that was cute!!
oh by the way~~ I did post that you said the women were ages 45 and up and I AM 43!! so there!!! I put that on the MENS site just for their information!! grin :)
Hey I haven't heard from Cathy in Carolina other than her e-mail to me I thought for sure she would be blogging... she has a male friend~~~ yep yep yep the one I met uh hhuh Mr. Coop himself who needs to be on this blog.. yep yep they were going to try to get him up and blogging.. wonderw hat happened??? where are you two??? what are you doing???? come on now??? !!!! :) :)
okay enough play I really need to get busy and I have to talk to SUZAN ABOUT SOME PERSONAL STUFF :) WE ARE GOING TO COMPARE NOTES:)..
SO AWAY I GO...
hugs to you all,
have a wonderful day,
Wanda
Yes, I had to peek, and it is a wonderful website-I will be forwarding it five of my favorite singles, that all deserve special women!! The senior bachelor seed continues to grow and grow, and I know fun, exciting events will follow. Richard, Joe, Umberto, thank you!!
Peggy
Mahalo for a job well done,and thanks for asking--just follow your dreams.
Still on travel from Chicago. What a great time!
Today I am overlooking a marina at Castle Marina on Kent Island on the Eastern Shore of Maryland.
This Friday I go to St. Michaels for 4 days, then New York for 2 days, back to Atlanta, then Chicago again and home to Maui about October 20.
Special thanks for the hospitality, fun and friendships in Chicago. What a great time at the Art Institute, City Tour, Mill....Park, etc.etc.
Neva
Fantastic, Richard and Co.,
The men's site should be great fun, I wonder how brave our Canadian guys will be, afterall when a Gal from Toronto has to travel all the way to Chicago for a decent man, all you great guys in Canada had better come out of hiding so we can find you.
Hoping the Canadian sector is represented in your 12 choices, Richard, I know this amazing woman in Toronto!!!!! We are all tuned in and waiting. Don't stress too much, all I know, whoever they are they will be very lucky ladies!
Lady Luck has often been my friend.
Good Luck .....Ciao!
Rosalie in TO
Richard-- best to address this right now because the rumors are flying.....do you intend to use the bios and info you received from us for the men's blog ? I personally don't think you will w/o our permssion but others are saying this is what you inteend to do since we agreed you can use our materials etc;....please reply....
Hello Ladies,
Yes, Richard is still hard at work with his Search for the Perfect Traveling Companion and future soulmate. Please allow me to blog on his behalf.
Glad you like the new stuff on the web. Richard is a tough task master. He said, "Get it done, I want these Ladies to meet men. Men. Men. Men!" And, thus, was born the Men's Page, the SB Photo Page, the Men's Blog (and the new polling tool was thrown in for good measure-- have you found it yet and voted?)
"dreamweaver18" glad you peeked at the Mens' Blog-- I knew all of you would! And feel free to post over there as well. Go easy on the new boys-- don't want to scare them away.
Yes, "connie" the work is just beginning. Baby steps. Go ahead and call the writer and set him/her straight. Tell them what went on in Chicago. You may make something happen. A letter to the editor is always effective also.
You got it, "Peggy", it is a seed that needs to grow. Thanks for planting!
"Merry Mary and Peggy" thanks for you compliments. That is great about your families checking the site for you. Have them stay tuned!
"Rosalie" get those northern boys poking around in here. Tell them to be bold-- you Ladies aren't going to wait around for them.
"sweetpme", first of all Welcome if this is your first time on the blog. Now, second, do you really think we would do that? Who are the mysterious "others are saying?" (You're not a previous "anon", eh? LOL!).
I'm going to leave the answer to your question for others to answer who have met Richard and heard him talk in Manhattan Beach and Chicago. How about it Ladies, do you think Richard and I would post your personal information on the website without your approval? "sweetpme" I will give you credit for asking the question-- that's all we ask of anyone before you let those rumors go flying about.
-joe
I was not asking for me, Joe. Thank you for your response. I was clearing the air because of stuff you could not be aware of on other blogs. So there -- its out in the open -- SB is NOT using your personal information w/o permission for those who thought he was planning to.
Ladies-- Go the the SB PHotos page and look in the middle of the right hand side box (above PerfectMatch ad) for the "Poll" asking about Richard's "BEard" or not to "BEard". I'd like to see him w/beard ! What do you think?
Hello All,
This actually is directed to the question on an earlier blog. How would you do it? (or something like that). In regards to picking those 12/6 women.
Oh wait, before I forget, nice job posting all the photos from MB and Chicago. Very nicely done and fun to look back on.
K, where was I? Oh yeah, if it were me and I had so many potential candidates to consider. I think that I would of course go over all of the information submitted by all the women. then narrow things down to who I felt most attracted to, or that I felt I had something in common with. Be it gardenening, love of outdoors, cooking together, walking, holding hands. Just simple things.
I believe I would be able to narrow the numbers down to at least 50 and go from there.
Now I think that when two people meet for the very first time, could be at a ball game, on a flight, on a beach....wherever there is an automatic attraction/or not.
Might be the smile, the eyes, the way one moves or even brushes the hair away from their face, a laugh or giggle. You remember those things, those gestures.
So after the 2,000 (is this a correct number for applicants, whew) is narrowed down to 50. I would start thinking about those that left the greatest impressions upon me, the little things, the simple things. Things that show a bit of the persons personality, kindness, thoughtfulness, and yes even lovliness.
Then you weed out candidates from the 50, narrowing down to half that. You're getting close, you're feeling anxious a bit nervous, a bit guilty. But on the other hand you must think about the opportunity that six fortunate women will have by traveling to different regions of the earth. That makes you feel better, in fact it makes you feel great. Cause you're doing something wonderful and thoughtful for someone else, and actually yourself too.
Then here is what I would do to get down to that 12/6 number. CLOSE my eyes........who is it that floods into my thoughts, why do they enter my thoughts, my mind. Could it be that I want to spend more time with them, learn more about them. Allow them to learn more about me. They did something to me at some point during our short meetings. Those that stick most in my mind would be the ones I would go with..........but that is just me!!!
Hope I don't get in trouble for posting something that was not the original topic!!!!
Ciao.
Oh yeah, there were a few pictures that well, I just didn't care for (of myself). Can I fly down for some re-takes *grin*
Deb Eddy
Y'all have a most pleasant evening,.
Joe, sweetmep had a very legitimate question. RR's newsletter did say he was using all the gals bios, etc. Why be rude and not give her a legitimate answer?
There is no need to take offense to people who question things
Hi Neva,
So good to hear something from you and your trip back east.
Sounds as though you are having a great time.
Wish I were headed back to Maui on the 20th.
You're a lovely person.
Travel safe.
Deb Eddy
"sweetpme" Sorry if my previous post was not clear. You were trying to clear up a rumor and, quite frankly, I'm pretty beat from getting the new stuff up on the web so I may have been a little curt. So thanks for the question and heads up about the rumor.
Ladies, we will never use your personal information without your permission. I think the confusion came from this on the new "Men's Page" which we directed at the men:
"--we will post photos and biographies of the Senior Bachelor Ladies on the website. When this is ready, you will have the opportunity to contact them by clicking on their photos."
We will only post your photos and biographies WITH YOUR PERMISSION. What purpose would it serve if you did not want the information on the website? We have not developed the means to do this yet but you can see how we are progressing. First, the Men's Page to "talk" to the men. Then the new SB Photo Page to create a way to post photos for your enjoyment and to show the guys how much fun you all are having. Now we have to figure a way to get your individual photos you want posted and your biographies on the web. There is no way we can use what you might have sent in already-- all of it is on paper! And all the photos are printed as well. We're certainly not going to scan all of that.
This is NOT going to be a dating service. Richard sees this as sort of a way to stand above the typical dating service because, by being involved with Senior Bachelor, we want the men to know that you are interested in Adventure and Romance. And you are Fun!
Also, if you see a photo that you would prefer not to have on the website or have us use, please let me know. Write me at joe@seniorbachelor.com. I'll be more than happy to take it down. I've done this already a couple of times.
Thanks, everyone!
-joe
Ladies please everything that is on this blog has been out there for the whole world to see for the last 6 months. there is nothing the guys are going to be able to see unless you sign a valid document saying they can view other wise come on now.. we are still on Richard's site we are still having fun with this adventure, lets not get to caught up with the what ifs just yet.. let the guys work out the kinks.. and let them do the worry.. hey i don't need any more grey hair~ do you?? come on have fun live life.. if those guys are checking out our blogs, reading what we write, looking at our pictures, maybe wanting to interact, do you think they want to jump in when its not a fun site, a debate, a how do you say almost argument, when it is over something that has evolved yet, so to speak, completely...
A WORK IN PROGRESS..
that the guys are working on
OKAY ENOUGH I HAVE HAD MY SAY i will shut up.. I have now stood up and said my piece..
well I hope I haven't offened anyone, but have clarified, what Joe was trying to say.. at least for my own piece of mind.. in my own mind maybe lol.. sometimes when I talk to myself it helps alot so if no one out there reads this but me.. thats okay!! I feel better..
now I am going to go get another cup of coffee and attempt one more time to fix my other computer!! :)
have a good night..
hugs to you all,
Wanda
Richard, Joe and Umberto
I checked out the photo page and it came up fast for me...I have high speed internet through the cable company. For those of you with dial up service it will probably be slow, but it's worth the wait...
I've said it before and I'll say it again...I really do believe that Richard has nothing but good intentions where we are all concerned.
I felt comfortable sharing my personal information with Richard. I guess you could say that he came with the stamp of approval from Oprah and what's better than that? I don't think of Richard or Joe as strangers...
I'm a big girl and can watch out for myself..however, I want to protect my grandchildren from unsavory characters who may try to take advantage of the situation...therefore, I have removed all pictures of my grandchildren from my blog. As much as I love to share them with all of you, I feel comfortable with my decision and I'm sure you understand.
Now I wait with the rest of you to find out who the 12 lucky ladies will be...we're all "winners" in my book...
I'm leaving in a few to visit my mom but will check back later...
Richard
I also voted on your poll...
Hugs to you...
Aloha Richard, Joe, 'Lone Rangers'
Posse and Friends on the blog!
I LOVE RICHARD WITH HIS BEARD!!!!!
YOU HAVE MY VOTE!
RICHARD RICHARD WITH A BEARD
THERE IS NOTHING IN THAT TO BE FEARED
FOR WISDOM SHOWS THROUGH THE SILVER HAIR
CARING AND COMPASSION IN HIS STARE
THE BEARD TRIGGERS MEMORIES FOR ME
A PAST INCARNATION WITH YOU, MAYBE
FOR WE ALL HAVE SURELY MET BEFORE
SOMEWHERE SOME TIME ON A DISTANT SHORE
I BELIEVE IN SYNCHRONICITY
FOR ONE IS WHERE ONE IS SUPPOSED TO BE
IT IS ALL IN THE TIMING NOT A MINUTE TOO EARLY NOT A MINUTE TOO LATE
FOR I TRULY BELIEVE IN THE HAND OF FATE
Dedicated to The Senior Bachelor Richard Roe, written by moi val!
Hugs
Senior Bachelorette:)
val the gal
With a beard is ahead by 13 points!
Good night, Ladies.
-joe
HEY Val The Gal You Rock!!!...great poem, was that just off the top of your head, or what?????
I myself prefer a clean shaven face on "MY MAN"....smoother to the touch....but then again, not to controdict myself, there have been times when that "five o'clock shadow" can be very sexy.......
As for our SB...well I like it OFF..and that I voted for...This is too much fun. So much more than I ever imagined.....and thats a Good thing.....
It's good to read all the possitive feedback about the "new stuff'....BUT.. Richard I'm sure I am speaking for many others in saying that it seems as though you have changed the subject at hand here on Your Blog....Where are your Agonising decitions?????
I haven't been here for the past six months to meet another man on the internet. For me it has been all about you.....Inquireing minds, and all of us Fun,Fit and Free batchelorettes want to know:):):)
LOIS
One last peek here before I nod off to sleep...seems quiet...nice
Richard
I voted for the beard but I think your handsome with or without the beard...
nitey nite one and all
hugs from Willy
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RR,
Your last 4 posts have many of us fabulous ladies confused
as by what they state in words, what is the meaning behind these words, and what exactly your intentions are. And how this all transpired while
you are so busy with making the DIFFICULT AND PAINFUL decision to choose the 12 runner-ups.
POST #1, Fri. 10/7 @ 17:43
NEW BLOG:
U ret. from Chicago Su 10/2 eve.
10/4,5,6 promoted POP&ME to Shell Oil. (family week-end)
#2, Mo.10/10 @ 16:43 Joe: "HOW WOULD YOU DO IT?"
While RR is working on his search
#3, Mo.10/10 @ 17:39: "A SCOOP!!!!"
#4, Tu.10/11 @ 11:23 AM
"MEN!!! CAN'T live with 'em and can't shoot 'em": (That is how you feel, most women do not want to shoot 'em)
"For the last week, Joe and I, and our staff, have been preparing 3 new pages.....
#3 had many thinking the "SCOOP" WOULD BE THE ANNOUNCEMENT OF THE
12 LADIES. Almost every post reflects this.
#4 Men's Page & Men's Blog......
.."your role is to get them (men) to sign up for the Newsletters."
This is not what we came here for, to find other men to sign up....
Us Women responded to YOUR INVITATION TO MEET YOU!!!!!!
The men that want to read your Newsletters are certainly able to sign up by their own decision, since ALL OF THIS VENTURE HAS BEEN HEAVILY ADVERTISED TO THE PUBLIC.
If you feel, that the women that will not be with you in person,
want to find other men, you could at least wait until AFTER THE ANNOUNCEMENT OF THE 12.
So instead of "shooting 'em", please tell us of YOUR DECISIONS FIRST!!!!!
Lets' see if you have the courage to NOT delete this. I have just
QUOTED WHAT YOU PRESENTED.
Ellen
Lady base camp-you are the most up and postive person I think I have ever meet. We meet at MB, but I did not get time to really yak at you.
When you write you are so right on with your comments. You make me and I hope others look at how wonderful life really is.
I will be first in line for that novel-keep writing. I know it would be a best seller and you would add so much to other people and their lives.
I for one appreciate it when you right, you make me laugh and you make me think.
Thank you!
Oops, I meant write, not right-even though you are usually right LOL
Imagine a woman who believes it is right & good she is a woman. A woman who honors her experience & tells her stories. Who refuses to carry the sins of others within her body & life...
Imagine a woman who believes she is good. A woman who trusts & respects herself. Who listens to her needs & desires,& meets them with tenderness & grace...
Imagine a woman who has acknowledged the past's influence on the present. A woman who has walked through her past. Who has healed into the present...
Imagine a woman who authors her own life. A woman who exerts, initiates, and moves on her own behalf. Who refuses to surrender except to her truest self & to her wisest voice...
Imagine a woman who names her own gods. A woman who imagines the divine in her image & likeness. Who designs her own spirituality & allows it to inform her daily life.
Imagine a woman in love with her own body. A woman who believes her body is enough, just as it is. Who celebrates her body & its rhythms & cycles as an exquisite resource...
Imagine a woman who honors the face of the Goddess in her changing face. A woman who celebrates the accumulation of her years and her wisdom. Who refuses to use precious energy disguising the changes in her body & life...
Imagine a woman who values the women in her life. A woman who sits in circles of women. Who is reminded of the truth about herself when she forgets...
Imagine yourself this woman...
Hello Richard, Joe, and Patient Ladies,
I like the idea of putting up a men's page and blog on the SB site but I would have to agree with Droma in that all of this should have waited until after the 12 semi finalists were announced. It's difficult to get excited about reaching out to other men when all of us are awaiting Richard's decision.
As for me I am endeavoring to keep my expectations low, realizing that I am one out of 2000+ women who have applied for the Journey. I am laying low until the Decision is announced.
This week is a busy one for me as I will be singing for Yom Kippur services tomorrow and Thursday. These are days of Atonement and I take them seriously. I continue to take stock of my life and decide what I can do to make it better. I think we all as women have made some important discoveries about ourselves in the last 6 months that we have been involved with the SB Journey. I am happy to have been involved since July. I wish us all luck in being chosen for Richard's Journey. It won't actually be luck that gets us chosen by Richard but how God is leading him(my belief system anyway). So I continue to trust God's path for my life and not allow myself to be disappointed what ever happens.
Lady Base Camp I love your humor and I'm sorry I didn't get to meet you in MB. Thank you for the insights into your life in Alaska.
My celebration will commense when the 12 are announced.
Til Then I'm ever hopeful,
Lois
Hi Lady Base Camp, I have just read your last writing. A good way to start the day, "Laughing". Your writings have reminded me of someone and something, and finally I think I have found it. I have a little paper back that was left to me by my father. It's title is "Only in America" by Harry Golden. I just found it on my book shelves, and sure enough, it is Harry G. that your writings remind me of. This is a supreme compliment and you are in good company because Mr. Golden's book, "Only in America", was a #1 best seller. One review re: Goldens's book reads: "Harry Golden writes what he wants to about anything he wants to. He writes about historical events, ancient and modern, with freshness and viewpoint and a vigorous enthusiam. He loves people and books and America, etc., etc., etc. The forward is by Carl Sandburg. My little book is falling apart and the pages are turning brown and the fragrance of an old
book suddenly hits you when you open it. This is a wonderful book!! I am going to read it again!! I hope you can find it too read for yourself. You will be amazed!!
Now at this early hour, 6:00 CST, I am going to get off these blogs and try to get something else done, but what I really want to do is read Golden's little book again after so many years. It just amazes me how much knowledge you have for the few number of years you have been around. I am a little older than you. I have a 40 year old son, an almost 38 year old son, and a 35 year old son. You may be able to find "Only in America" at Amazon Books, if not, and you want it, I think I still have a old address from N.Y. where one can order old magazines and books.
"All the Best", Jayne
Wow, I am totally amazed that women get so angry with Richard/Joe. The Sunday morning session in Richard's room was an eye opener to their vision. Should they have waited until after the 12 picked, maybe. But this is what I feel. We all meet, have gone with or had communication from someone who does not fit what we are looking for. They may still be on a stong career path, have children to raise, hate sports, dancing etc. but they are good human beings with value. They may be just the perfect fit for one of the hundreds who had the guts to fly to California or Chicago to meet Richard. If you see a real character flaw in someone, don't send their email address. Pick the goods ones and share. Only 12 and then 6 will be picked. Do I want to be one of the 6, of course. But try to see the larger picture. After meeting Richard, Joe and Umberto, I am convinced that this took on a life of its own. Who would have ever dreamed it could be this large. Let's go with it and have fun. "There is no passion to be found in settling for a life that is less than the one you are capable of living." Nelson Mandela. Thanks and have a great day. Karen
Hello,
Could it possibly be that Richard, Joe and Umberto might just be thinking of all the ladies by introducing the new Men's Blog?
Introducing it before the announcement of the 12 or 6 might just be out of consideration for all the ladies that went to Manhattan Beach and Chicago and those that did not. Did it occur to some that they really did like all the women that took their time to go to the parties and travel to meet them and particiate in a thoroughly new endeavor? Why are we all STILL so interested? Could it be that they are really nice, true gentlemen who do really care? Could this next venture just possibly be a little gift of thanks to all the ladies, even those who did not go to MB and Chicago. There is only one Richard, Joe is married and Umberto is much to young for most of us. So, doing it this way might just be a little gift of sweetness. Now, I know I will be bashed for writing this on a couple of other blogs. I really don't care!! So what if they don't like the way things are going. They were merely invited guests, and should have conducted themselves as such right from the beginning. Maybe I am wrong!! If so, they can bash away on their own blogs. And, if I am wrong in my perception of how this is playing out, then at least I will have erred on the side of good healthy fun and very interesting people. What's wrong with that? Jayne
Jayne-- I agree with you. I think the men's blog is a way to keep hope alive and fun keep rolling for all those who are not destined to be Richard's match. I think it was a nice and thoughtful thing to do. And for those who didn't read about it, the men's blog is a response to those who clamored to keep the energy going and keep the connection alive for those who want to go on with this venture.
If you are one who has problems with this, I hope you will do your naysaying elsewhere. We are all perfectly capable of making up our own minds.
I am a bit confused about the mens' blog (or forum as it were)
Sorry, trying to get the hang of this. How will this work? The women will have pictures and bios set up, and the men can just log on,choose someone and communicate? Wouldn't the men have to post pictures and bios for this to be on equal footing? Otherwise, this could turn into a scary venture. What would prevent random men from accessing all sorts of information without providing any themselves. At least the online dating services cost $$$ to hopefully weed out some of the bizarre people out there. Is it just me, or does this sound a little out of control, and not well thought out?
need some reassurances.
Patty
Patty-- click on Men's Blog on the SB home page. Then click on the gray box saying "Men's Blog" and you will come to the kind of familiar blog page we have been using all these months.
Men of our aquaintance (that means blogette approved) are invited to comment and communicate and set up their own blog pages fon that site. If there is a guy you find intriguing, well then, click on his photo (when he has one), go to his blog page and start "talking". If he sees your blpg comment with your photo on the men's page he might be contacting you, as well.
In other words, if you post on the men's blog, you are showing your interest in meeting up with the others there -- I'd guess the fun ladies as well as the guys.
So the fun CAN go on.
Patty-- I don't see this as scary at all. These guys only have access to whatever information you give them through your blog comments (we all know Wanda's bra size now, :) funny girl) or through your blog. You can use a blog name and set up a free Yahoo email address to communicate until you are ready to be known.
You also have the added protection of communicating with the blogette sister who invited this guy to be on this site.
I think its great.
Oh! Sorry, didn't mean to mis-communicate--you don't have to have a photo on your blog comments to have a blog. People can click on your name.
skywatcher-ella,
"imagine yourself this woman..."
I AM THIS WOMAN....AND MUCH, MUCH MORE!!!
Except I "picked" to have only
ONE GOD.
Ellen
Good Morning Richard, Joe, Umberto, My Friends of the Blog (to many to Name)...
As I read all of your comments, I feel you are all right in your way expressing how you feel, you all have the right to do so, feelings, are what we are here to talk about!
Richard and Joe have always encouraged us to talk about our feelings as long as it pretained to "The Senior Bachelor" I for one even though I have not met Richard in person ~ believe he would not do anything to put us in dangers path.
We have Blogged with Richard for 6 months now and when it got nasty the comments were deleted.. if it were about him or about us, he would jump in and say hey come on now.. lets keep it NICE or go somewhere else..
I know I was blogging late last night and was a little hasty with my words when I stood up to say my 2 cents worth, but I felt Joe really had said what needed to be said the first time, and so why say he was rude? Richard and Joe have been working hard and we have the easy job of waiting.. oh did I say easy??? understatement... lol
grin :) hehehehe
I am very anxious to know who the 12 are, yes I would love to be one of them!! but if Richard is choosing them based on who he has met then I am certainly out of the running.. simply because I was unable to make it to the affairs that were the best times for those who were able to make it..
for me I am saddened I wasn't able to make it..
I even had a chance to go!! but instead I chose to Move to California.. an opportunity I could not refuse..
I know it has to be difficult because for me, well I am the curious type, I would like to meet in person, see thier eyes, and because I am a hugger~
I want to know if they have a genuine hug affecion, and of course... if it comes down to the last but not least of us :) :) It is always the Kiss ~yep the kiss.. I have said this from the very beginning, if the kiss does it for the both of us ummm ummm gooood.... yep yep yep... lol
grins ..
then I am sorry ladies, Richard would be all mine!! GRIN :) lol
but of course like I said I did not have the opportunity to meet him, and there are 2000 women and I am only 5'0 tall I would be pretty small in that crowd.. lol
So lets continue to Blog away have fun and wait... I love ya'll
Have a Wonderful Day~
heres sending hugs your way~~~~
Wanda Whitworth
Hi Chocolat 47. Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!!! Someone agrees with me. I think you got it, Chocolat!! Yeh! Yeh! Yeh! To Sweet Patty, I have been on the blogs from the very beginning, and believe me, there are no ulterior motives, no posting of photos without us knowing and approving of it, and you do not have to do anything you do not want to do. I think it has just been good, clean fun for older folks, nothing more, nothing less. It has evolved and was masterminded by three gentlemen who LOVE women, and I think they have genius I.Q.'s. I would suggest that you not read some of the other blogs that bash, insult, use nasty words, look for ulterior motives, get angry and are continually suspicious of others. They insult the ladies on this blog as being arm pieces and male dependent. Most of us are NOT. So, I think you will like it here. Almost all of us are really nice and we really do LOVE MEN.
Jayne
Chocolate47--in a perfect world, you would be correct. But there are now tons of pictures with name captions and locations of the womens' home towns. What would prevent a man,say John Smith from posting--without any introduction from one of the female bloggers? Yes it is nice when someone introduces someone, but access to the forum and any threads (by definition this really isn't a blog) is totally open to the public and anyone can post. I think it naive to expect that only nice guys will be posting here to meet the nice ladies. There are internet stores we have all read that make one's head spin.
wtihout any controls in place, this simply can turn into something quite quickly that it was not intendent to. There must be some controls put into place that protect the vulnerablity of the women who will seemingly have quite a bit of information out there for anyone with a blog name and password to access. All the other dating sites have numerous stopgaps to prevent this. This forum to date has none.
Maybe this could be done in partnership with a "match" site. Also, unless a male blogger identifies a blogette reference he will not be considered as "recommended". Would that work?
Janiegirl--I above all like to think of myself as a critical thinking. This means that i am able to read threads from SB and threads from other womens' sites as well, and then form my opinion as to what i feel. Reading only one thread, whether it be this one, or another thread outside of this, would give me just one point of view. I have always found that to be a dangerous way to formulate an opinion. I am a gatherer of information, which i then mull over, and then formulate my own opinion. And this opinion is always subject to adjustment as time goes on and i am able to read more threads from the various forums. I have learned quite some time ago not to blindly accept anything just because it is written. But breaking it down to "us" and "them" seems to just to polarize people. And one only has to look at the world today to see that this simply doesn't work on any level. So that is where i am coming from, and after reading about this new mens' forum, i have some concerns which i think can be alleviated with some careful thought. Open forums such as these are about as exclusive as McDonalds, and i am just voiceing my concern over possible misuses as they are currently set up.
patty
They thought YOU would Never ask ??
LOL
Dear Richard, Staff and Ladies,
There weren't as many Blogs to go through this AM, but they sure had substance,
"There is no passion to be found in settling for a life that is less than the one you are capable of living." Nelson Mandela. Thanks Karen
If I don't think about anything other then that (and of course, how best to use myself),I hope that makes some sense, then my day will be meaningful.
I am intrigued by "Only in America" but it starts with each of us by what we do in Alaska, Canada US or wherever we are.
Enjoying a great day is our 'option' today.
;-) :-) Mary Rose
Ella, I am also going to make your "Imagine--- into a hand out for discussion groups unless you tell me not to. OK? Mary R
Hi Everyone
(And to my religious friends today, Happy Yom Kippur, Day of Atonement)
Upon reflection, and a couple of very long conversations until the wee hours this morning, I came to the conclusion that, although the wording in the Newsletter regarding using women’s photos and bios was probably badly written and ambiguous, I really don't think it is the intention of RR (nor anyone else involved with the SB site or endeavor) to use our existing bios or photos. Unfortunately, though, like Pandora's box, more disquiet emerged among the ranks than needed to or could be easily contained.
I can now see both sides of the equation and understand the logistical impracticality of the first thing that came to my mind yesterday (as correctly mentioned by Joe), namely scanning photos and rewriting bios. I also realized last night that, yes Joe!, after meeting Richard and you I do not sincerely believe either of you capable or likely to undermine the confidence and trust carefully built over six months and experienced by all who participated either in MB or Chicago.
A few have mistakenly felt that there have been material changes throughout this journey. I hadn't recalled any, since I joined in June after the People magazine article, and what was written in the Newsletters from that time has not changed. I do understand that, for the women who collaborated with the urgency after the Oprah show in April, the new deadlines that were established might have been confusing and disappointing.
But in all honesty and deference to Richard, he has been candid and honest with us all. He has. Since late last Spring the deadline for submission has been Sept. 16, selection by Oct. 15th, departure sometime in November, "the odds weigh heavily that all ... matching up best will be 50 and over"(age). Although I might have my personal opinions and take on whether including men will ultimately be successful or not to the SB endeavor, I can see how it might make sense from another perspective. Time will ultimately tell.
So, let us all just take a step back now. Take a collective deep breath. Let the rewrites take place and the misunderstandings be cleared up. I think a lot of emotion is happening now, and we really don’t want to spoil the very good feeling and vibes taken from Chicago, and from MB, regarding Richard, his sincerity and this his quest for companionship and possible romance.
Well, that’s my peace.
Hugs to all!
Suzan
Dear Richard,
Thank you for adding "Either Way" on the poll. Even though you look great either way. The choice is always yours. I voted "Clean" for the same reason you you went "Clean" on Oprah.
Trivia: Does anyone know how many of our Presidents have had beards?
Mary Rose
Voting either way on beard or no beard. Richard has a strong enough chin that it doesn't matter.
Mary Rose
The answer to your 'trivia' question is - they ALL had beards!! But not all of them shaved their beards every day!!
Right?!
Hugs!!!
Suzan
I feel everyone here has great points-we are all smart eough to figure out what is best for us.
I for one am going to take a step back and see what happens.
I do agree that the twelve should have been announced then this, but maybe RR just can't figure it out. We are all wonderful and deserve the best-whatever that me.
For now I am going to try and get the book "Only in America" and will let others that maybe interested where I found it.
Lady Camp-keep writing, I am waiting for your next great blog. They always make me laugh and it is like a book I do not want to put down.
I hope and pray that all of us will look into our own hearts and do what we feel is right.
Have a great day,
Marty
Good morning or afternoon...I have 12;00. Hope everyone is well and happy. I imagine you have all read this but I think it bears repeting. Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intension of arriving in one pretty piece,but to slide broadside ,throughly used up yelling, "Damn that was fun." It truly is....Love, Mary
A 70 year old nurse walks into a bank and prepares to endorse a check. She reaches in her pocket and pulls out a rectal thermometer and tries to write with it. She looks up at the teller and says well, great. Some butthole's got my pen. MM
OK, as a retired English teacher I should be beat with a wet noodle.
I always use to yell at my students about proof reading, then I go and do the same thing.
Hope you can understand what I was saying-what a ding dong :)
Marty
Hi Sailingannapolis, I never only read one thread of anything. But, I do know foolishness when I read it!! That's my choice, and you have a perfect right to disagree with me!! I just want Chocolat 47 to know that I have not seen any dangerousness about this blog and I can't imagine what horrible danger A Gentlemen's Blog hosted by Joe and Richard could possibly have. I know that this is an open forum but I can almost assure you that any male, dirty rats, will be booted off immediately and even if our hosts miss any foolishness, it will be brought to their attention by the observant ladies. So, I just want Chocolat 47 to know that she will not be harmed and I think she should just roll with the flow, relax and not start asking lots of questions. The Men's Blog is just beginning to evolve. I think she will find that her questions will all be answered in time. I think she will find that she will not be in any danger!! Now, if anyone feels insecure about participating on the Men's Blog, just don't go there. I can't see mulling over every little thing that these men say or come up with. If someone does not approve, just stay away. Chocolat 47 has a perfect right to quesion and I have a perfect right to let her know my feelings. I would rather see her reading most of the ladies on this blog than the rude, man haters from a few other blogs. Bye the way, there are several other women's blogs that are not offensive to men, and they contribute a lot. Also, no man can get to me from this blog or the one I have set up. I must admit that I am not a techy, and don't even know how to get a photo up on my blog so, maybe there will be men out there that might figure out who I am. So what? I can just boot them off. I try to remember that I am a guest on this blog and now the Men's Blog. I try to conduct myself in a lady like manner and have fun with all of this blogging. Also, Patty, unless you are very new to the blog, you may have observed by now that I am a pretty well read, intelligent lady. Thanks for writing and expressing your opinions. You are also very intelligent. Jayne
Marty, To ere is human, to forgive devine. We forgive you and we all go too fast and make boo boos. It was a good letter. Thanks, MM
Dear Richard, Staff and Ladies,
Not trivia:
It is apparent that we had 'lesser' worries when we were just sharing mostly amoungst ourselves. The sight was still open to the "Preditors" who may or may not "CHARM" their way in, then or now.
Yes, I know the concerns, risks and DANGERS, even more so because of my job right now.
We are all at risk every day in all sorts of ways, even in driving down the road. I can not trust that that another driver won't do something wrong. All I can do is trust my own skills (as well as the breaks and steering on my car.)
The dating service that I signed up on has a way that shows who was looking at our sight. Our blogs have never had this. Were you concerned when you noticed 57 or 1057 viewers on your sight and only maybe a few comments? Were they all Women?
Richard was repeatedly asked for "More Men".
I ALMOST BROUGHT A SINGLE 66 year old bachelor with me to MB. We are very long term friends and would have gotten along as brother and sister room mates. I am so GLAD that I didn't. (I chose not to, Thank God, because he is more of a Professional Bachelor then really interested in something Long Term and I didn't want him playing games with my friends.) I know, He is an adult and I'm not responsible, etc.etc, Lets not go there! OK.
But what I am trying to say is If I would have brought him, some of you would have liked it and some of you might have "Old Geisered" him and of course blamed my for answering your request.
How would you have liked Richard to answer your requests?
Are our pictures any more at risk then Richard's Joe's Nancy's, etc.?
If we do the same old things, we will get the same old results!
Real courage is when you do something that is frightening.
Mary Rose
..."the rude, man haters from a few other blogs"..." I try to conduct myself in a lady like manner" ... "unless you are very new to the blog, you may have observed by now that I am a pretty well read, intelligent lady."
Thanks, LadyJayne, for reminding us you did used to post as one of those "Anonymous", and later evolved into this "lady like", "well read, intelligent lady"!!
FORREST HILLS...DROMA...ALL...:)
Promise yourself to be so strong
That nothing can disturb your peace of mind.
To talk health, happiness, & prosperity
To every person you meet…
To make all your friends feel that there is something in them.
To look at the sunny side of everything
And make your optimism come true…
To think only of the best,
To work only for the best,
And expect only the best…
To be as enthusiastic about the success of others
As you are about your own…
To forget the mistakes of the past
And press on to the greater achievements of the future...
To wear a cheerful countenance at all times
And give every living creature you meet a smile….
To give so much time to the improvement of yourself
That you have no time to criticize others…
To be too large for worry,
To noble for anger,
Too strong for fear,
And too happy to permit the presence of trouble…
---Christian D. Larson
ella, your writings, from "sage" on a few months ago, smack of plagearism.
Or maybe they are "off the wall"
from a Denny's?????
The Invitation
It doesn’t interest me what you do for a living.
I want to know what you ache for, and if you dare to dream of meeting your heart’s longing.
It doesn’t interest me how old you are. I want to know if you will risk looking like a fool for love, for your dream, for the adventure of being alive.
It doesn’t interest me what planets are squaring your moon. I want to know if you have touched the center of your own sorrow, if you have been opened by life’s betrayals or have become shriveled and closed from fear of further pain. I want to know if you can sit with pain, mine or your own, without moving to hide it or fade it or fix it.
I want to know if you can be with joy, mine or your own, if you can dance with wildness and let the ecstasy fill you to the tips of your fingers and toes without cautioning us to be careful, to be realistic, to remember the limitations of being human.
It doesn’t interest me if the story you are telling me is true. I want to know of you can disappoint another to be true to yourself; if you can hear the accusation of betrayal and not betray your own soul; if you can be faithless and therefore trustworthy.
I want to know if you can see beauty, even when it’s not pretty, every day and if you can source your own life from its presence.
I want to know if you can live with failure, yours and mine, and still stand on the edge of the lake and shout to the silver of the full moon, “YES !”
It doesn’t interest me to know where you live or how much money you have. I want to know if you can get up, after the night of grief and despair, weary and bruised to the bone, and do what needs to be done to feed the children.
It doesn’t interest me who you know or how you came to be here. I want to know if you will stand in the center of the fire with me and not shrink back.
It doesn’t interest me where to what or with whom you have studied. I want to know what sustains you, from the inside, when all else falls away.
I want to know if you can be alone with yourself and if you truly like the company you keep in the empty moments……….
Forest Hill,
I am still laughing about the correct answer, "All of them"
The white cap you gave me has been worn much, It is the only hat I have ever had with my name hand sewn inside. That was so nice of you.
And Ella, you should just forward me copies of those types of writings so I don't have to do all the coping and pasting.
(the truth is that I didn't even know how to do that before this blogging)
It is an awsome day here, just cool enough to play with the horses.
Thanks again
Mary Rose
Bejaflur... I love this piece. Thank you...:)
janie
"Hi Sailingannapolis, I never only read one thread of anything. But, I do know foolishness when I read it!!"
I am not at all sure what the above quote means, but there have been so many incidents of difficulties on websites, dating or not. that is why so many people prefer to post anon.
"I can almost assure you that any male, dirty rats, will be booted off immediately"
To answer your above quote, no one would even be aware of these men to "boot the off" They hardly come on and post nasty things. They simply get one or several womens' emails/addresses/pictures etc. and then contact them on the outside. One only has to watch the evening news to realize that older men are writing children and arranging to meet them etc. I myself experienced a lurker who was very very difficult to get rid of. Do not confuse my concerns with those of criticisms of Richard or Joe. These are questions for all of us as this site goes from infancy to adulthood. They have asked for our input, and I am sure we may come up with some idea they have not thouoght of. After all, this is their first shot at this as well.
" I can't see mulling over every little thing that these men say or come up with. If someone does not approve, just stay away. "
And lastly, my comments on your above quote--I think many women want to be involved with this, and asking questions only clarifies what this site will be all about., and suggesting ideas that may eventually enhance it for everyone. If these people stay away, there will be no energy from the collegial effort of those who want to be a part of a terrific site that draws both great men and women in a manner that is safe for all involved.
thanks
patty
ella, you oblige before my post hit. Which one of us is psychic?
Larson's words are very nice. And would it not be nice if all of us could be that strong at ALL times.
But than we may get bored, little stirrings make the world go (not so) round. Piece, I mean Peace
OK, Mary R! I'll just forward the "writings" I come across (next time I go to Dennys)directly to YOU (no fiddlin' with copyin' & pasting, eh?)... :)
PS- Thanks for supporting ALL of US...
Ellen...
Thanks for the piece/peace...:)
PS- Now I'm off to Dennys for lunch...:)... And yes, we ARE psychic...:)....PEACE........
Hello Everyone,
Just wanted to say to Suzane....what you wrote earlier was well said, well written. You're a very smart women.
Deb Eddy
oh brother, here we go again! -- there is always at least one nay sayer...SO WHAT if RR DOES want to start up a dating service, last i heard the U.S. was a free country, with free enterprise as its bastion (is that the right word?)...and remember that RR is a retired businessman,,,old habits die hard, and he is not the type to just sit around twiddling his thumbs...we all make the rules up as we go along in this life.
This is HIS PARTY, and he is entitled to make the rules, if you don't like them you don't have to play...that is what choice is all about. We are all adults, and the choice is ours...so quit all the griping and just get on with enjoying life.
Hello Ladies,
Let me try to catch up!
"willemina" it is wise to not post the photos of your grandchildren. Our biggest challenge on the website is not knowing who is looking in and providing adequate security.
"patty" you said, "What would prevent random men from accessing all sorts of information without providing any themselves. At least the online dating services cost $$$ to hopefully weed out some of the bizarre people out there. Is it just me, or does this sound a little out of control, and not well thought out?
need some reassurances." Your concerns are valid and we have thought of all of this as well. As I noted before, none of your personal information or photos or anything will be used without your permission. We are working with our web consultants to work out all the mechanics and details. It will be well thought out and provide adequate security for you. Everything will be presented for you to consider. And the men will be presented with the same options. If you like it, use it. If not, then don't. No one is going to force you to participate. The details will be forthcoming. We just wanted the men to know that this was coming so they would know there was the possibility of contacting you-- again, if you want to be contacted. I read some of your later comments and they are all valid- especially personal for me as I have a 14 year old son and 13 year old daughter. I very much want to protect them from what can happen on the internet (or even walking down the street.) As with everything in life it requires educating oneself to the dangers and vigilence.
"droma" My goodness, you live up to your blog name (drama). I'm leaving your comment up so others can see why you have been deleted in the past. Now, if I can decipher a question in your comment, it seems you want to know if Richard has made his decisions and when he is going to announce them. If you read the Newsletters you would have your answer. Nothing is hidden here. Please read the October 4th Newsletter (if you do not get it by email all Newsletters are posted on the Senior Bachelor site- simply use the "Newsletter" link on the navigation bar on the left side of every page.) In that Newsletter, Richard writes: "Either in a Newsletter later this week, or the following week, the names of the women attending the October 29-November 5 week will be announced." By my calendar, we are at Wednesday of what Richard referred to as "the following week". Will you please grant us that this week goes until Sunday, October 16th? "droma" I know you have told us before how busy you are and you don't read everything but please make an effort.
"ladybasecamp" Fantastic blogs! I hope you are saving them.
"janiegirl" That book sounds like a gem. I'm going to see if it is in my public library. The tone sounds like that author who wrote that hilarious non-fiction book about walking the Appalachian Trail (Bill Bryson?) I also like Jean Shephard (sp?) who wrote "In God We Trust, All Others Pay Cash" who has a wonderful satiric bent to his writings. It was non-fiction but they used it as the basis for one of my favorite movies, "Christmas Story" with Darin McGavin.
"chocolat47" thanks for explaining the reason for the men's page and blog.
"sailingannapolis" How about this rule for the men's blog. You have to be introduced by a woman in order to participate. Go look at the first brave man who has commented there, "CoopMan". He was introduced by "sharingthenight" Wanda and he said so. Wanda posted a comment and confirmed it. A creepy guy would have to go through some pretty big gyrations to have all of that lined up. Let's see how it goes. Let's not allow "anonymous" comments so they have to at least set up an account. And just be careful about the personal information you provide while online.
'foresthills" thanks for the balanced perspective. I want to hear the collective "deep breath"!
Gotta go for now. Keep blogging!
-joe
PS- Poll update (from the new SB Photo Page):
Clean shaven 25%
Beard 42%
Either 33%
Richard said he's thinking of throwing away his razor!
p.s. ...here are some of the "words of wisdom" that i fall back on from time to time:
> "the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
> "buyer beware"
and i learnt very early in life.
> "there is no such thing as a FREE lunch"
cheers,
pj
Joe and Richard:
I am consciously 'choosing' to believe that your intentions are good.....SO,I posted this on my site, and thought you and the ladies might enjoy pondering the possibilities...
That's what it takes to be a hero, a little gem of innocence
inside you that makes you want to believe that there still
exists
a right and wrong, that decency will somehow triumph in the
end.
-- Lise Hand, describing the late Irish journalist Veronica
Guerin.
Remember, ALWAYS GO4IT !!
Peace and Joy in the Neighborhood,
CJ
Yvonne in Honolulu,
Good morning Ladies:
I will only say that ...Richard & Joe has only been kind..caring..and I know that they are only looking out for our best interest..They have put in lots of time, energy and hours for going the extra mile ..for us . If we do not get to be one of the lucky twelve, at least.. We have a second chance to meet or try to find that special person. It is your choice..How special is that!
Joe & Richard ..has the real "Aloha" Spirit, as well, as a great big heart! We are all winner's ...because we took a chance and stepped -out of our comfort zone and have grown. If you do not change..You will stay the same. The possibilities are numerous once we decide to act and not react.. So many ladies have inspired me..We have new friends.. I love the bloggers.. I say..get over it and ... move on and enjoy the ride.
As Joe had said.. it could get bumpy..and that what makes it so much more exciting.
Mahalo, Yvonne
"a change is as good as a holiday" my mom always said, so if RR feels good with a beard, i say "go for it" -- i like beards, and i don't like 'razor stubble', ugck it hurts. beards are nice.
pj
CJinSOCAL - yeah, i agree with you, i believe that RR has nothing but good intentions...but see how he has been mis-uncerstood...but life IS full of risks, and he obviously is not afraid to take risks...as always, you have said just the right thing!
cheers,
pj
Hi Yvonne,
and MAHALO to you too,
pj