Thursday, March 16, 2006

Your Thoughts

In the most recent Newsletter I addressed an issue I have raised periodically-that of marginalization. Generally I hear via the blog or from e-mails when people like a particular article or issue. Many people e-mailed me about really liking Angie's New Orleans story and Lori's Costa Rica story. As long as I am sent interesting articles I plan on re-printing them in the Newsletters. Do you like this idea?????

Re marginalization, I am starting to feel a bit like a lone voice in the wilderness, as I rarely hear that anyone is interested. I would like to hear your thinking, because this is something that has occupied my time and perhaps my time is better spent elsewhere.

It would be best to share your thoughts on the blog. If you would like to say something personally, you can e-mail me at . Thanks for your comments. RR


wanderlust said...

On one of your earlier blogs, there was an excellent discussion about marginalization.

In your last Newsletter you said that the media and advertisers treat the >50 ones shabbily.
I feel that they are aware that most of the >50 are at the highth of their careers and earnings, and have at least another 15 years of work at this level or above it. They may not use older people in their ads (unless the face is touched up), but there are plenty of wares that are supposed to address the older peoples "problems", like Vitamins, diet pills, and Cosmetics.

It may be more difficult to convince us that we NEED their product.

Is this treatment by the advertisers not different from marginalization?

Since you differ in your opinion, maybe a more detailed explanation lets me see your viewpoint.
I would like that.

Thursday, March 16, 2006 2:48:55 PM  
M.M.Corbett said...

Richard, this is in response to your question about putting the articles in the newsletter section. My thoughts on that is if the article receives a set number of responses be they positive or negative you could use that as criteria as to weather to transfer them to the newsletter. It is my assumption that the newsletter is permanant documentation. Later on if you were to do a research article on what news seem to stimulate the mature audience, this could be used as research data. Hope this is relative to what you are asking. M.M.Corbett

Thursday, March 16, 2006 3:12:56 PM  
M.M.Corbett said...

To the bloggers: Merry Mary is recovering from foot surgery niecely. She is still non- ambulatory but hopes to be in full recovery very soon. M.M. Corbett

Thursday, March 16, 2006 3:19:24 PM  
Richard Roe- Senior Bachelor said...

Hi Friends, My son Chris is doing graphics for some of the biggest shows on television, like Fear Factor, Deal Or No Deal, and now this new one. Check it out!! Richard

Simon Cowell's latest TV creation kicks off tonight on ABC at 8PM
with the premiere of American Inventor. Naturally, the creative
genius at FISH EGGS designed the k 3D title graphics for this
show. Be sure to check it out - we've heard there are some crazy
surprises in store and absolute hilarity of inventions! For more

Hope all is well,


P.S. Fish Eggs is Chris' company name. Get it???

Thursday, March 16, 2006 3:34:27 PM  
leslie said...

I'll be sure to check out the new show tonight. I don't watch Fear Factor because of some of the things they make contestants do that I've seen promoted. I don't watch Deal or No Deal after watching the premier episode. I think the whole thing promotes greed greed greed. Maybe this new show will have some sort of redeeming quality. We shall see. Regardless, congrats to Fish Eggs for landing the job of designing the graphics for the 3 shows.

Thursday, March 16, 2006 4:33:09 PM  
leslie said...

PS: What does everyone think of the "Roe vs Wade for Men" issue? j/w

Thursday, March 16, 2006 4:35:10 PM  
Nancy said...

Richard -
I wouldn't have 'gotten' the fish eggs reference, except that I've been doing crossword puzzles lately in my spare time (keeps the mind active, they say...) and the clue 'fish eggs' comes up a lot. I think I had to look up the answer the first time, but now I know to pencil in 'roe'.

Nancy in Ohio

Thursday, March 16, 2006 4:47:11 PM  
Merry Mary said...

Nancy, What a pretty picture of you...Of course you are a very pretty girl. I'm on lortabs again and had company taking care of me so am behind on reading and writing. I have throughly enjoyed the blog as with having 2 surgerys. It has helped to keep me entertained and looking up things I don't understand. I thank all of you who contribute. Much Love, Puny Mary that will soon have dancing feet.

Thursday, March 16, 2006 6:30:31 PM  
dreamweaver18 said...

Hello RR!
I just happened to catch the end of 'American Inventor' with the two young lads, one of which designed a 'doggie air conditioning unit' that clips onto the car window! It looked like a clip from a movie the two lads standing with the 'lassie' looking 'pooch', too adorable for words! Alas the 'Inventor' was very upset with the judges and from my perspective had 'chutzpah' which shows great promise! I think Simon Cowell is on Larry King tomorow (Friday) night be sure to check it out! He's a cutie, love that English dry wit!
Good for Chris ...'break a leg' Son is also showing great potential, he is 'THE NATURAL'
senior bachelorette:)

Thursday, March 16, 2006 7:54:22 PM  
willemina said...

Merry Mary
Glad to have you back :) I know what you me by being entertained by the blog and learning new things.

Love your picture...and thanks for explaining the "roe"/"fish eggs" because I had no idea. I was thinking "caviar"?

I looked at Chris' web site. Very nice photos and graphics. My brother is a very talented graphic designer in San Luis Obispo. One of his most well known logos is for the GAP. He has also done Banana Republic, Celestial Seasonings, Cal Poly, and many many more.
I've seen the previews for Simon Cowell's Inventor Show and I think it will be a hit.

Happy St. Patrick's Day to All:
Here's a joke for ya...

An Irish man walks into a pub. The bartender asks him, "what'll you have?"
The man says, "Give me three pints of Guinness please."
So the bartender brings him three pints and the man proceeds to alternately sip one, then the other, then the third until they're gone. He then orders three more.
The bartender says, "Sir, I know you like them cold. You don't have to order three at a time. I can keep an eye on it and when you get low I'll bring you a fresh cold one."
The man says, "You don't understand. I have two brothers, one in Australia and one in the States. We made a vow to each other that every Saturday night we'd still drink together. So right now, my brothers have three Guinness Stouts too, and we're drinking together.
The bartender thought that was a wonderful tradition.
Every week the man came in and ordered three beers. Then one week he came in and ordered only two. He drank them and then ordered two more.
The bartender said to him, "I know what your tradition is, and I'd just like to say that I'm sorry that one of your brothers died."
The man said, "Oh, me brothers are fine----I just quit drinking."

Thursday, March 16, 2006 8:07:55 PM  
leslie said...

Well, American Inventor was GREAT! From the fantastic intro graphics to the 14-year-old boy who didn't move ahead the whole show was very entertaining. It was heartwarming to see how much some of those people invested in their dreams. I will definitely tune in again.

Thursday, March 16, 2006 10:03:07 PM  
neva said...

I ran the marginalization concept/topic by a few agents and publishers and they were not excited. I think there might be too many definitions and/or perceptions of what it means. (either that or they already have writers).

There is a difference I think between being in the margin and being invisible (at least in their minds). Can you see me? Can you hear me now? is what they are looking for, I think. They need practical ways for stepping out of the margin into mainstream, if you will, or ways to stand up and be noticed positively.

For example, there have been times, when I entered a restaurant as a single and seemed invisible relative to service. On the other hand with regard to commercials and advertising I have a choice to operate "in the margin" because I might be more visible there then in the print.
What are some practical ways seniors, singles, females......etc...can receive the attention/recognition needed to make substantial change in our lifestyles and living conditions.

Perhaps the Sony example is not as effective as it could be. If it is used, you might amplify it by adding a few other examples.

These are just my random thoughts after a walk in Hyde Park, lunch at Darling Harbour, several hours in the Chinese Gardens, resting at an internet everwhere shop near the world center in Sydney.

Thursday, March 16, 2006 10:31:13 PM  
JanieGirl said...

"HAPPY ST. PATRICK'S DAY" It's a great day for the Irish!! Now all the Blarney will end for another year, but until then, tis a blessing for ya,........
May you always find blues skies above your head, shamrocks beneath your feet, laughter and joy aplenty, and kindness from all you meet".


Friday, March 17, 2006 3:37:12 AM  
JanieGirl said...

Hi NANCY IN OHIO, Is that a Thomas Moran lithograph on the far wall, behind your pretty face? Please let me know. Many thanks, O'Lady Jayne

Friday, March 17, 2006 6:12:54 AM  
dreamweaver18 said...

RRoe, Joe & Co!
Wishing ALL The Luck O' The Irish may the Leprechauns do a li'l jig around ye and sprinkle you with Angel Dust! ( I LOVE ANGELS)
I've been 'touched by an Angel', now now don't go thinking all kinds of nonesense, you know what I mean ;)
Remember to smile when you're on the phone, they can hear it! :)

Don't lose your identity as an individual, keep dancing to the beat of your own drum, even if people don't agree! Those that make a Positive difference in our world always stand apart of the so-called 'mainstream' linear way of thinking!
A beautiful sun-shiny day today
As Janie'girl' would say Erin Go Bragh.....and Janie'girrrrl' what is the meaning of Erin Go Bragh and St. Patrick's Day?
Sprinkling ALL with glittering Irish Clover!

Friday, March 17, 2006 6:43:38 AM  
dreamweaver18 said...

speaking of Irish...where is PHYL?
come out come out wherever you are
'Lady Of The Mist' you can't hide in the fog forever ;)
Happy St. Patrick's Day to you!
luv O'Vally

Friday, March 17, 2006 6:56:24 AM  
Nancy said...

Thanks for the kind words, Merry Mary, Willemina, and Janiegirl! DesertFlowers was gracious enough to add the photo to my blog (which isn't up and running, but now the photo shows up when I type on someone else's blog).

And O'Lady Jane - I checked the painting and it's signed by someone named J.R. Sparks.

Nancy in Ohio

Friday, March 17, 2006 8:34:13 AM  
dreamweaver18 said...

The flap of a Butterfly's wings in Brazil could set off a storm in Texas.
Isn't that an amazing statement?
The "Butterfly Effect" theory suggests that the POWER released by a Butterfly's wings can AMPLIFY over time to eventually affect weather patterns thousands of miles away. Now imagine the impact of 4 million Butterflies!

We HuMANS need to consider the "HUMAN EFFECT" that gossiping(the power of the tongue) and inflicting physical harm on our own species plus Fauna and Flora,(look what has happened in The Amazon Basin) which has a direct affect on our Global Environment. HuMAN has yet to recognize the impact his destructive ways affects our delicate Eco System! We have had the mildest Winter ON RECORD...scary stuff, but a reality...a 'wake-up call' ???
Nature Lover
senior bachelorette:)

Friday, March 17, 2006 8:58:56 AM  
REDTBIRD said...

HAPPY ST. PATRICK'S DAY my mothers favorite day she had red hair and green eyes a true Irish women! I'll be checking out the new show tonight how exciting!
I like you putting a topic on the Blog every week because it keeps everything a little more focused.
Have a fun day,

Friday, March 17, 2006 9:51:11 AM  
REDTBIRD said...

loved your joke and loved meeting you in Santa Cruz. What fun we had. Linda is such a neat person and the perfect host. I'm looking forward to our Mission trip or the car show or both.

Friday, March 17, 2006 10:00:40 AM  
dreamweaver18 said...

By the way RICHness, here's a return call to your 'LONE VOICE IN THE WILDERNESS' Woof..owwwww
A beautiful face that has graced (and still does) magazine covers
is Lauren Hutton and she is in her
sixties! I bumped into her in the foyer of the Hilton Hotel in New York a few years ago, she liked my purple dress/'Painter Shirt' style from Guatemala.
We need someone with clout to launch a Women's Magazine for the 50 plus category which reflects getting older(maturing) with grace and dignity! Photography is a fascinating 'medium' .....with the right light and 'shadowplay' one can create beautiful photography and the Senior Woman 50+ with very little make-up, beautiful hair and a smiling face can light up every magazine cover, looking a la natural! The secret to revealing 'natural beauty' is from within...that shine blossoms through to her face! My opinion the Models on the 'catwalk' need to always smile and look happier!
Lauren Bacall is another timeless beauty from a different era!
By the way speaking of magazines, Oprah's 'O' Magazine is fabulous!
I look forward to the day when I can purchase a glossy magazine soley for the 50+ category ;)
Here's to 'forever young'

senior bachelorette:)

Friday, March 17, 2006 11:24:08 AM  
Debbie said...

Being new to the blog, am "out of the loop of the origination of the topic being marginalized".

That being said - STATS Canada states that by the year 2010 (OLYMPICS - my word), 1 in 4 will be seniors. And that's an "old" report. On the "American" side a professor out of Stanford U just indicated that our life length is increasing 1 year every year for the next 20 years...WOW!!!

The Canadian Government has just lifted the 65 years of age mandatory retirement.

We cannot afford to lose our core thinking group. For once I think the "government gets it"... but ultimately for their gain, as the income taxes will still flow in, and the pensions will NOT flow out...

Advertisers often cater to the youth market - but my guess is that will be changing (and I MEAN quickly)!!!

Friday, March 17, 2006 11:24:57 AM  
dreamweaver18 said...

p.s. Men 50+ also exude confidence and like fine wine 50+ category for both Women and Men, there is maturity ;)

Friday, March 17, 2006 11:35:13 AM  
dreamweaver18 said...

Just occured to me ....UMBERTO the photographer has a GIFT with his amazing photography...there you go Richard...maybe you can launch the upbeat 50+ Women's and Men's it SHINE !
You already have beautiful Women and Men 50+...look at Vickie....Lori etc. your friend Joe and what about Surfer Sol? Now there's a surfer dude wid attitude ;) to grace the 50+ Magazine Cover! Count me in too, with my waistlength Strawberry Blonde hair, 100% natural, I'll show 'em! ;)
Here's to FUN
senior bachelorette:)

Friday, March 17, 2006 1:12:24 PM  
JanieGirl said...

Dear Val, Dreamweaver18, Here are the answers to your questions. 1st - Erin Go Bragh means Ireland Forever and the tale of St. Patrick follows. He is the Patron Saint of Ireland, and the tale goes that he was not Irish at all. St. Patty was in fact a Scot. The story goes that he was sold into slavery by a marauding expedition of Irish Picts. Whom ever they were. He lead a hard life before escaping and then, He fitted himself for the priesthood. There upon, the Pope gave him permission to return to Ireland where he proceeded to run out all the snakes, which is probably blarney because the Emerald Isle supposedly never had any snakes. Now, since he probably was not Irish at all, but of Roman ancestry and born in Scotland, but he still became an Irish Saint. So there you have it, the tale of St. Patrick, Patron Saint of Ireland with a little bit of truth and a whole lot of blarney. The wonderful Irish adopted him and he became their St. Patrick. Oh! It is said that St. Pat also was one of the earliest to bring Christianity to the Irish. He was born in the year 396 and left this earth in 469. Not much more is known about his life. And so, the tradition was started to celebrate the good man's life in Ireland and of course here in the U.S., and I believe the tradition started in New York & Boston. There is nother myth about the hair. Most Irish are not redheads at all. Their hair is brown, with Irish blue, blue eyes. The redheads are usually Scots with the green eyes. So that is O'Jaynes tale for today and the last of my Irish Blarney. Have a great evening my friends. O'Lady Jayne...........Hi NANCY IN OHIO. Thanks for the info on your painting. It looks beautiful and the vivid colors reminded me of Thomas Moran. Oh! I too believe in angels.

Friday, March 17, 2006 2:38:22 PM  
dreamweaver18 said...

Don't forget to tune in to Larry King tonight....guest is SIMON COWELL, and he will be taking calls!
Somebody is going to 'latch on' to the 'Fabulous 50+' idea and capitalize on it...just you wait and see...itz about time!!!!

JANIEGIRL: thank you for the interesting info. on St. Patrick in addition to the wee bit o' Blarney...been FUN...ERIN GO BRAGH

sexy senior bachelorette:)

Friday, March 17, 2006 3:38:57 PM  
leslie said...

There has been a magazine out for several years for 40+ women - it's called MORE and is a wonderful magazine. I've been getting it since it came on the market. Lots of beautiful mature women with excellent articles pertaining to mature women. There's travel, skin care, clothes, financial advice, interviews, and MORE MORE MORE. Check it out.

Friday, March 17, 2006 5:00:06 PM  
dreamweaver18 said...

I as a full bodied red blooded Wwwwwoman(as with the Wine ;) am in total disagreement with what I call 'The Blowfish Phenomenon' ...the Botox...Nip and Tuck...Lyposuction....Breast Implants etc. etc. It is so easy to spot a beautiful woman that has had Botox injections around her eyes, mouth etc. The face takes on a completely artificial look about it, almost scary! Spiritually it is not a good idea to alter the 'blueprint' of a Woman's Face as every line tells a story. Personally, I feel when anyone, especially Women change their facial appearance through all of the above it interferes with their Natural Skin.
There are amazing 100% Natural creams on the market today and in the not too distant future the 'Blowfish Syndrome' would have lost it's grip on Women, maybe Men too but they do not have to contend with wearing make-up, well there are the exceptions, I won't go into that, not for me to judge.
G-D Forbid in the case of an accident or abuse then of course re-constructive surgery is the only way.
Diane Keaton was the guest on Oprah's show the other day and applauded as NEVER having had a face-lift, botox etc. She also believed in 'maturing' with grace and dignity, and she is fabulous!
Her inner beauty shines through and is 100% visible to everyone!
Here's to remaining a la natural!

sexy senior bachelorette:)

Friday, March 17, 2006 5:54:53 PM  
showgirl said...

Enjoyed reading your last post....
Mostly "skim' through the rest.....Your adventures and opinions always grab my attention..BTW... Wish I were where you are now.....
About "margins". I believe Personal visability occurs Outside the margin....Or as they say "stepping out of the box".....
My life is not judged or lived by margins....And I am so happy

Friday, March 17, 2006 11:38:41 PM  
JanieGirl said...

DEAR RICHARD, Please send us the definition of "Marginalization." I cannot find it in any dictionary that I have. Therefore, it is difficult to respond to this subject. I have to plead ignorance. I believe you asked us about marginalization last spring when your blog started, but the subject ended quickly. So, please clue us in.
Many thanks!!! Lady Jayne

Saturday, March 18, 2006 6:09:31 AM  
Richard Roe- Senior Bachelor said...

Dear janiegirl, I'm sure there are many different versions of marginalization, and here's mine. The fact that the vast majority of TV programs, movies, magazines, and radio shows, gear their programs and target audiences to the "coveted" younger demographic. They say it's 18-49, but it's really 18-39 or 18-34. In any case, by implication, if you are older than 49 you are not "coveted." I find this not only disrespectful, but stupid. Thus I feel people 50 and over are being marginalized by the aforementioned industries. Richard Roe

Saturday, March 18, 2006 6:48:43 AM  
dreamweaver18 said...

If we can get down to the 'nuts and bolts' of WHY the 18-39 age group is the main TARGET when it comes to advertising, magazines, make-up, modelling etc. Could it possibly be because they don't invest in the Botox, Face-Lifts, Breast Implants as much as the 40+ do? Are they easier targets to influence into 'buying' all this media frenzy because of the FRESH 'untouched' look about them?
I am trying to get to the bottom of WHY the 50+ category has fallen between the cracks re. exposure! Could it also be because of the constant TV commercials promoting the 50+ solutions to the 'ageing' problem which has saturated the airwaves for years now and just maybe that has put a 'negative spin' on it for the 50+. We have been 'marginalized' 'pigeon holed' for too long and need MORE exposure showing the 'beauty' of maturing! Time for the 50+ to 'STAND UP AND BE COUNTED'

sexy senior bachelorette:)

Saturday, March 18, 2006 7:28:09 AM  
willemina said...

Most of us are of the Baby Boomer Generation...did you know that there are over 79 million of us?

I understand marginalization to be the social process of becoming or being made marginal (especially as a group within the larger society)
It seems to me that we ARE the larger society and should not be ignored...

Here's a little bit of trivia about Baby Boomers...

Boomers - Tidbits & News.

Did you know:

Every 7 Seconds someone in America
turns 50.

50+ age group:

* Is the fastest growing population

* Is the most affluent consumer
group that exists.

* Account for over 40% of total
consumer demand.

* Average $24,000 in annual disposable

* Control over 48% of all discretionary
purchases that occur.

* Own over 80% of all money in
savings accounts.

* Own 79% of America's financial

* Spend almost $2 Trillion on goods
& services each year.

* Own 62% of all large Wall Street
investment accounts.

* Visit malls more often than
any other age group.

* Dine out 4-5 times per week.

* 74% use the Internet to find
health information.

* 78% make online purchases.

* Over 70% are willing to try new

* Spend over $29 Billion yearly on
grandchildren's gifts.

* Women over 50 spend $21 Billion
on clothes annually.

Source: Gary Onks
- SoldOnSeniors, Inc.

Saturday, March 18, 2006 7:56:16 AM  
willemina said...

Use the internet to look up can find everything and anything on the web. Just type in any subject in the search area.
For instance, if you want to look up a word in the dictionary...just type in dictionary. You will then click on which will give you a choice to use their dictionary, thesaurus, encyclopedia or the web to look up that information. It's great!

Saturday, March 18, 2006 8:12:00 AM  
willemina said...

I also had a great time last weekend with you and Linda. It was truly a pleasure meeting both of you and I really would love to get together again and drive along the coast... and visit the California Missions along the way. (The missions are situated so that they are a days walk from each other which should be easy to do in a car)
We have 2 car shows every year here in Paso Robles sponsored by West Coast Kustoms. The "big" one will be Memorial Day weekend and I believe the other is Labor Day weekend. (Linda has a beautiful red 65 Cadillac convertible and I'm trying to get her to drive down to Paso Robles for the car show.) Nancy has also shown interest and I would love to get together with these two fun ladies again and show them my little town.

Saturday, March 18, 2006 8:25:17 AM  
JanieGirl said...

Hi Richard and Val, I just don't feel marginalized!! Perhaps, because I supposedly look 20-25 years younger than my chronological age, which is over 60++, that I have not felt this marginization. I don't care what the T.V. producers do and I don't watch situation comedies, and I switch the channel when commercials come on. So, I don't care what they think or say. I must add that at times some women have tried to marginalize me socially. Listen to this: A former friend had a female guest over to meet me and the guest soon started digging me about her stature in Huntsville, Alabama society, and soon she told me that I was definately not in the same social scale as she. Well, guests or no guests, I blasted her: I said, Well, Linda, with all your money and all your so called social standing in Huntsville, IF YOU HAD MY LOOKS AND MY BRAIN, THEN MY DEAR, YOU WOULD REALLY HAVE SOMETHING. The friend that had invited us was on her phone the next day calling all the other socialites to let them know what I had said to this Linda. If she could have gotten it in the newspapers, she surely would have done so. Well, was someone trying to marginalize
me? Perhaps, but I don't care. I have pretty much been outside the box and still stop traffic and if they want to say I am an old bitty, then I don't care. I really am getting older!! And, I can't do a thing to change that. I can and will be the best that I can be. Women like me know where to find all the things we need (at a bargain) and we accept whom and what we are. THEY JUST CAN'T MARGINALIZE US. Peace!!
Lady Jayne

Saturday, March 18, 2006 8:28:35 AM  
JanieGirl said...

Hi Willy, Thanks for all the advice. I have one of the best dictionaries available, the Webster Encyclopedic Dictionary, plus a Roget's Thesaurus, plus a set of encyclopedias. I still go to books for information because I think they are more reliable than internet info. I must say that Microsoft does have a great dictionary and encyclopedia that I occasionally use, but I still like my books. Perhaps that is because I am not a baby boomer, to old to be a boomer, but I'm really happy with whom and what I am whether someone tries to marginalize me or not. Have a great day!! Oh! Willy, I forgot to mention that in older books like the ones I mention above, there is less distorted thinking, therefore, one can absorb the true meaning of what is written. Lady Jayne

Saturday, March 18, 2006 8:53:02 AM  
Jo said...

One of the favourite American presidents, Ronald Reagan, was born in 1911 and took office in 1981. That means he was 70 years old when he took on the most important job in the world. But when he was born, the life expectancy for males was 49.

I think the problem is that "seniors" are becoming younger and younger (and there are more of them) but the perception of "age" has not caught up with this demographic.

I am a "boomer" but I'm not ready to be called a senior yet. I prefer the word "mature". But when you think about it, that's really silly. A rose by any other name.

What our generation has to do is stop hiding. We have to stop the younger folks from trying to make us feel ashamed of being older - marginalizing us. I enjoy the ads for Dove soap because they say that beauty comes in all shapes, sizes and ages. We need more ads, tv shows, movies, magazies, etc., like that. Maybe it will start with this forum.

Lauren Bacall was on the Academy Awards this month, and she really put some of the much(!) younger women to shame for elegance and beauty. Many of the younger women all looked as if they were trying too hard.

Age brings with it wisdom, experience, and a certain humour that the "young" seem to lack. We need to teach the younger generation to cherish these things, to aspire to them. And the older folks need to stop punishing their bodies and faces into looking younger. I often look at some of the movie stars of my age and wonder what they would look like if they didn't have plasticized faces. They may have aged into great beauties, instead of looking like plastic replicas of how they looked at age 30.

If we have all the money, then we have the purchasing power not to pay for movies, magazines, advertisments, etc., that marginalize us and over-glorify youth.


Saturday, March 18, 2006 9:36:40 AM  
JanieGirl said...

Well, WILLY and RICHARD, I just can't pass up a challenge, especially if it has to do with the written word. Went to search, typed in dictionary, typed in the "M" word and this is what I got. 1) to relegate or confine to a lower or outer limits of social standing. 2) the social process of becoming or being (especially as a group within the larger society); the marginalization of the underclass, also the marginalization of literature.
WELL, my friends, I just cannot be relegated or confined to a lower class, and I sure a heck won't ever allow anyone to put me in any underclass.
Guess What? I think I really knew what the "M" word meant. I just didn't know I knew it. HA-HA..... I have to say the RR and Joe have been "Masters of Mystery and Intrique," and Richard really does know how to spark the intellect, like mine and many other ladies of the blog. Next Subject, Sir!! Thanks!!!!! Lady Jayne

Saturday, March 18, 2006 9:37:06 AM  
dreamweaver18 said...

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and 'age' is ALL in the mind, BUT we cannot for one moment dispute the fact that we 40+ need more RECOGNITION generally so that the 18-39 year olds don't have this inherent fear of 'growing old' so to speak!
I still turn heads, get wolf whistles, and get mistaken for my daughter's sister, I too am real happy in my skin and 'think young' I listen to Aerosmith, Elvis, Rolling Stones, Pink Floyd etc. and crank up the volume. The ONE THING that is vitally important to me is NEVER to colour my hair, no botox, no nips and tucks, I plan to mature a la natural and let the inner beauty shine, that is the example I set for my 21 year old daughter and Sons 26 & 23 ! My teeth don't come out at night(not yet anyway). While on this subject MEN what the hell are you doing wearing these bloody toupes that at a moments notice flap in the wind, given half the chance?? Certain personalities on TV wear a toupe and the studio lighting catches can easily see the colour difference etc. Now please you are representing our peer group, smarten up!!!! Sometin's gotta give!
'nuff' said
sexy senior bachelorette:)
p.s. to fast forward....I LOVE 50c....Eminem...Coldplay....Usher etc. Now don't marginalize me, 'don't fence me in' ;)

Saturday, March 18, 2006 10:56:22 AM  
neva said...

Cruise starts Tuesday p.m.

Sydney is fantastic and has changed tremendously in 11 years.
The upover pictures were taking atop Sydney tower. It is circular so you can get all city views. I had lunch up there one day. It is about a block from the Hilton.

I have pictures of Darling Harbour, Unity Bears, Opera House, Chinese Gardens, Royal Botanical Gardens and others (about 375) but I don't have wireless at my hotel. Maybe I will have it shipboard.

I saw Olivia Newton-John in concert with the Sydney Symphony Orchastra a couple of nights ago at the Concert Hall, Sydney Opera House. Fantastic show and it was filmed.
She has a new CD out called "Stronger than Before" with songs that she wrote following her battle with breast cancer. She did it for contributions and breast cancer awareness month. She also has opened a breast cancer center.

The "Six Dance Lessons...." with Australian actors in the new Colonade of the Opera House Playhouse was hilarous!!!!!

Aside: Queen Elizabeth11 was here last week for the opening of the Colonade. She went from Sydney to Canberra and planted a tree at Parliment House and then to Melbourne to open the Commonwealth Games. Exciting time in Australia now.

Condaleeza Rice was also here in Sydney this week to discuss relations with China and to thank Australia for its support.

I am going to Star City today (on foot). It is adjacent to Darling Harbour and is suppose to be very dramatic and entertaining.

When I get better access and have more time I will post more picture, but not sure when that will be.

Saturday, March 18, 2006 5:28:32 PM  
young at heart said...


In regard to feeling marginalized, I had not given it much thought until you mentioned it, partly because it's only recently that I realized I AM an older adult!

I thank you for raising our awareness on so many issues, and I appreciate the opportunity to read about other people's experiences and ideas.

Sunny in Lexington KY

Saturday, March 18, 2006 6:02:54 PM  
young at heart said...

In re Angie's story, I remember Bev suggested Habitat for Humanity, and quite a few offered to help, and Willemena mentioned about flood prevention technology in The Netherlands. Any update on these ideas?

My computer access is so sporadic, I feel lost catching up with the blog. Can comments pertaining to each weeks topic be summarized, and added to as more info is available?


Saturday, March 18, 2006 6:17:38 PM  
dreamweaver18 said...

Comes a can lose it in a day
Comes a toothache...see a dentist right away
Comes LOVE....nothing can be done ;)
Frank Sinatra

Sunday, March 19, 2006 7:28:27 AM  
dreamweaver18 said...

To answer your question, yes I
like the idea of you re-printing interesting articles in the Newzletter!

sexy senior bachelorette:)

Sunday, March 19, 2006 9:39:06 AM  
dreamweaver18 said...

Hello Richard!
On the subject of 'marginalization'
A TV talk show called 'THE VIEW' is terrific. Barbara Walters
thought it a good idea to have Women covering everyday subjects that affect Women and Men 24/7. Their guests are Female and Male from all walks of Life, a fascinating, FUN and thought provoking group of very intelligent Women, ages ranging from 40's to mid 60's, as with Barbara Walters she is a dynamic individual with a good attitude and they are ALL very YOUNG AT HEART!
OPRAH is in the same league now 50 years old, she is also a 'trailblazer' and assisting to 'put us on the map'. Her guests include Women and Men Of Valor such as Maya Angelou, the Late Mrs. King, the adorable Late Mrs. Rosa Parks, moviestar Morgan Freeman(whom I had the pleasure of meeting many years ago in Victoria B.C. at the 'launching' of 'Driving Miss Daisy'), South Africa's Nelson Mandela (Madiba) and countless others who stand tall. This in my opinion is the correct use of 'media coverage' when a talk show is a 'vehicle' for the 'mature' 45+ age group! As you have said there are many ways of looking at the so-called 'marginalization' issue but with the POSITIVE coverage for the 45+ slowly taking over, we have come a long way baby and I feel the BEST is yet to come!
Personally I have NEVER felt better in my entire life as I do now at the young age of FREEDOM 55 ! The world is at my feet!
The challenge for me is to keep 'walking to the beat of my own drum' as those who ~~flow~~ in the mainstream have a tendancy to want to change me ie: cut my long curly hair as "it is not for a woman of "your age" ?????? I say 'get real', leave me to do what is best for me, I'm perfectly happy 'in my skin' thank you ;) There is sooo much for us 45+ to look forward to! The world is our Oyster!

sexy senior bachelorette:)

Sunday, March 19, 2006 11:20:36 AM  
dreamweaver18 said...

oops correction: OPRAH is 50 years YOUNG ;)

Sunday, March 19, 2006 11:44:46 AM  
Megs said...

Marginalization can always be a hot topic, regardless of what sector one is discussing. With regard to our age group, I, personally, am not out to change world beliefs. I can't. However, I can accept myself for who and where I am. With that energy, I am able to face each day, climb to the top of the mountain, and then keep climbing!!!
Another question totally unrelated to the blog... Will we know the ratio of how many men there are to women on these cruises this summer? Anyone???

Sunday, March 19, 2006 6:27:01 PM  
dreamweaver18 said...

Dear Richard, Joe, & Posse
April 27th 2006 marks a year since you first appeared on Oprah and the world has not been the same since :) Here's wishing you and yours another year of FUN on the blog with exciting cruises taking place this coming Summer and completing your travels with the remaining Finalists! Umberto with his photographic expertise bringing these beautiful places into our homes at the click of a button!
It's been a blast sharing and experiencing all the emotions ranging from laughter, anger, tears
compassion and last but not least the support towards encouraging each other to walk the walk and talk the talk!
Good Night And Good Luck
senior bachelorette:)

Sunday, March 19, 2006 9:30:04 PM  
REDTBIRD said...

NIVA, We all want to be there with you. Your doing all the things I love to do. What great memories your going to have. Thanks for sharing.

Thursday, March 23, 2006 4:50:55 PM  

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